baseballfan56 asked:
I was listening to the radio and ABC news radio said that so far this is the fifth coolest summer on record. They said water parks are experiencing the slowest business on record. How can the Global warming alarmist keep up with their ranting when all evidence shows just the opposite is true and that man has nothing to do with Global warming or Global cooling. The sun is the biggest factor in earth temperatures.
I was listening to the radio and ABC news radio said that so far this is the fifth coolest summer on record. They said water parks are experiencing the slowest business on record. How can the Global warming alarmist keep up with their ranting when all evidence shows just the opposite is true and that man has nothing to do with Global warming or Global cooling. The sun is the biggest factor in earth temperatures.
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pollution is building up in the sky sphere, which is blocking sun rays, thus, its keeping the planet cooler
you describe global warming (its called climate change, btw) in much the same way christian fundamentalists describe evolution- that is, in terms that make it clear that you dont understand what you are talking about
They are ranting so their socialist policies become official law.
GW Alarmists have created a win-win situation. If it’s getting warmer then it’s because of GW. If it’s getting cooler it’s because of GW. If they (GW alarmists) are getting richer it’s definitely because of “GW”.
Geesh, well it’s the hottest and driest since 1984 here in Texas. Lake levels are so low that they are finding cars reported stolen in the 80’s and that was on the ABC TV news just today.
It would appear that you’re just grasping at straws to rationalize your views. The sky isn’t falling but just because you think people are over-reacting doesn’t change the fact that global temperatures have been rising and regardless, our climate will be different.
Doesn’t really matter what’s happening or who’s responsible, we know that the climate is changing dramatically and that affects which lands are arable, which lands are preferable to live in, where our fresh water resources will be, when will our fresh water will be available. Basically, our demographics must change to adapt to changing climates and the only way that happens is with mass migration, economic upheaval and essentially a lot of human suffering if the changes occur in a short time frame so it would behoove us to do what we can to slow the process down.
Ironic isn’t it that the deniers will say the news say it’s cooling without any links yet my links to those exact same claimed sources report record heat. Classic misinformation technique to misquote a source in order to borrow the legitimacy of the source but not the information.
It is a religion.
Just as other religions did not fail when their prophetic predictions did not come true, so to will Global Warming not die just because the prophetic predictions don’t come true.
They will continue to believe even if they are a mile deep in ice.
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I like what Ottawa Mike says, but I’d like to add that the 1000, 50, 25 and 30 year trends were all cherry picked, but the 1005, 20, 35 an 55 year trends are all scientific.
Awe come on only 10 of you are displeased with what I have to say. I am sure there has to be at least 20.
I’ll start off the bandwagon.
Well, you see it’s not actually cooling overall. Yes, it’s cold where you live but it’s hot where you don’t live. Now, being real about this, it doesn’t matter because all the matters is trends. If a 10 year trend doesn’t convince you then I have a 30 year trend that’s pretty scary. Now the fifty year trend is a bit of an anomaly so a 150 year trend is really what’s needed. And don’t listen to the 1200 year trend because that’s just another anomaly.
Actually, just pick any start and stop date and you can make a graph of whatever you like. It’s magic.
Graphs which illustrate the changes in global temperature dating back to 1880, you can make out a clear trend. From the other comments it appears that everyone is a meteorologist, and knows their stuff, however the scientific consensus is that global warming is a reality and that it is more then likely caused by the emissions of carbon dioxide.
Land-Ocean temp avg:
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From meteorological records (ground based temp) average:
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They are invested heavily in it. that people will follow and buy priuses
You need to remember this fact global warming is an average increase of Temperature not a freak cool month of a cool day. Look at glacier pictures in the last 50 years some are gone.
That ‘fifth coolest summer’ is probably in your region.
Worldwide, this is currently averaging the 9th warmest year since records began in 1850:
1998 and 2001-2007 were hotter, but we’ve only just recovered from a cooling El Nino (and we’re deep in a solar minimum, but that’s a smaller effect) so it’s no surprise that we’re currently cooler.
Global change ,climate change ,call it what you like it’s all hog wash
If we stopped chopping our forests down looked after our water, we could cool our home from the sun and blocks that houses are getting built on are smaller less tree’s are being planted less shade, and the biggest factor there are more of us and less water and tree’s and food than there was 100 years ago and 200 years ago so every thing will change even in the next 100 years
“Fifth coolest summer on record” is meaningless when not qualified with what region you’re talking about, and it seems more than a bit premature to draw conclusions about summer anyway when it is only about one-third over with.
I’d be quite willing to bet that for the Northern Hemisphere as a whole it won’t be the fifth coldest summer, or even the twentieth coldest summer. Climate scientists don’t judge the threat of global warming by water park attendance.
It sounds like you’re talking about your local weather. On a global scale (it is called *global* warming, you know) May 2009 was the 3rd-hottest May on record (in the past 130 years) and June 2009 was the 2nd-hottest June on record.
I guess “global warming alarmist” can “keep up with their ranting” because we’re aware of the scientific reality.
By the way, solar activity hasn’t increased in about 60 years.
And over that period the planet has warmed more than 0.5 deg C.
Still want to blame the Sun?
So then………… the rapid depletion of the Icebergs in Alaska and above is a “normal” thing and was to be expected? Hum?
That’s odd. When I searched the ABC News website, the term “fifth coolest summer” returned zero hits. Same for “5th coolest summer”.=”fifh%20coolest%20summer”
Maybe that’s because summer is only half over, and nobody knows yet?
Or maybe that’s because June 2009 was the second-warmest June on record, stretching back 130 years?
I don’t care if you lie about the data, but please tell the truth about your sources, so that we can verify them. If you’re getting your stuff from Rush Limbaugh, why are you ashamed to say so?
Its a fact that levels of carbon dioxide have been building steadily in the atmosphere for decades and likely will continue building while we burn as much fossil fuel as we do now. However, since we are talking levels of gas in the parts per million range, the impact of this is very much a matter of projection and it remains to be proven that any global warming from this affect will not be cancelled or counteracted by some other thing that is just if not more powerful to the big system we call earth.
Most likely what you hear was a pick-up of an AP story issued on Friday, 7/24. The print version mentions water parks, but says nothing of a record. That story was specific to the US Midwest and East Coast. It is not global, as globally this is a hot summer.
If you did hear that water parks are experiencing a slow summer, that still would have nothing to do with either weather or climate. You might be aware that there’s a bit of a recession going on. What you might not be aware of is that there is also a declining number of kids in the US, as the baby boom echo is in college and high school. Water park business is very dependent on economics and demographics, as well as weather.