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Part 3 – Professor Bob Carter continues looking at the things which are problems to the idea that CO2 is driving climate change and global warming.Inconvenient Truth author Al Gore would find his presentation contradicted by this presentation? Will kyoto`s greenhouse reduction goals be in vain?
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1)The older Chemical process was used until the early 60s. Only since then is it accurate.
2)Agree. Never has in the past, why should it now?
3)Proven over and over, but the effect is limied once you get more than 80ppm in the atmosphere.
Yes, and even the “new and improved” version has a serious flaw in it. If the scientific evidence does not support a given scientific theory, it cannot be true no matter how many scientists or scientific organizations support it.
“The most terrifying video you’ll ever see” is extremely terrifying. That anyone would base actions that have such deep world-wide implications on such extremely flawed reasoning is indeed terrifying. Following this man’s logic, it would be safer to starve to death than to visit the grocery because one might be run over by a car on the way to the market.
punarinta16: “… However, climate change is a real thing happening today (any birdwatcher will tell you this!).”
Not so much.
We had a really, late spring this year, really late, as the sun has gone quiet, really quiet,with recorded cooling for the last few years now and nowheres near the increase we saw in the 1998 time period.
So, ‘warming’? Not so much, if at all.
*Prove Co2 can “generate heat” from IR bombardment*
And this is the most hokeiy of the Environut Political Activist posing as “Climate Experts” claims as
1) UV rays heat earth surface & the thermal heat then transfers to the atmosphere based on the air’s Humidity…not some magial heating of ghg vibrating as it his struck by infared light
2) More of something doesn’t make it asorb more thermal heat..it causes diffusion meaning it takes longer to heat to same maxmum tempature from heat source
**I would add that the issue of man-produced CO2 is not just about its relation to climate**
Huh?
The Grad Students and University falculty running the University Weather Stations playing “Climate Expert” with thier glorified SimEarth programs
1) have never linked the CO2 rise to the burning of fossil fuels, they just have monitored the rise
2)Have never shown Co2 rise to be the driving force in Average Global tempature rise
3) Prove Co2 can “generate heat” from IR bombardment
we dont only put co2 in the air….
while i am at it i might as well fire up the stove and bake a cake too. we gotta hurry up and warm up the climate, cause the more CO2 we put in the air the less chance we will end up in a ice age.
you can use an xbox 360 too lol.
hey i need to play my playstation now so i can hurry up the global warming ok.
I would add that the issue of man-produced CO2 is not just about its relation to climate but lagerly about the rate of human use of finite energy resources. It is just one indicator for something we have to deal with – called economic growth – watch
The Most IMPORTANT Video You’ll Ever See (again a dubious name for a very true story). Be prepared to listen to some boring but nonetheless essential stuff
A good talk indeed. However, climate change is a real thing happening today (any birdwatcher will tell you this!). Whether human-produced GHGs are involved and to what extend is a minor matter in comparison with the risk we are facing in case of a “not-so-nice” scenario. On this, you may want to watch The Most Terrifying Video You’ll Ever
See (not a good name).
sorry for responding to comment you wrote a while ago, but i just have to say, you hit the nail bang on the head there, the vast majority of people say global warming is the earth heating up from what humans are doing to it, and how many of thepeople who say this, how many of them have done any sort of research at all? they would rather sit back and let gore do the research for them and then take his word for it, but ignore the fact that there is no scientific fact in his theories AT ALL.
I’m not saying that at all. I sent you a comment in defense of my position and i hope ya got it. The media has had a bad habit of INTERPRETING the news lately. the whole “Saddam was a nasty person” thing was brought to you courtesy of the Rich media moguls… not trying to argue but anyway, i hope ya get that other comment.
If you’re trying to support the Bush Administration’s claim that Iraq posed a direct and immediate threat to the United States, a claim that was used to manufacture public consent for the invasion of a sovereign nation without congressional approval, that claim was clearly false. The rationale was then shifted in hindsight to, “well, Saddam was a nasty person.”
Umm just for the record. I know that global warming is not man made but…. Iraq had enriched uranium… and had already used nerve gas on its own people. to technically they did have WMD’s.. they just werent PRODUCING Uranium, and they didnt have ICBM sytems. (inter-continental Ballistic Missile)… which is why the media accused them of NOT having them.
The sun hasn´t been this warm since 11400yrs ago(Since the last ice-age):And on the 4th Nov. 2003 the sun had IT´S BIGGEST EVER SUN-FLARE (x28)which led to el nin(j)o in 2004.SUN VS.CARS. The temp. of Earth used to +3¤C and has cooled off since 3M. yrs ago when N. &S. America joined. The 2004 temp. is the same as in 990th.The CO2 FROM ALL TRUCKS & CARS WORLDWIDE IS 0,0028%(out of 100%) Facts for TAX. And did you know that the Iraqies has weapons for mass- distructions and the EARTH IS FLAT
well there are a few different thing’s to consider (this was shorten):
1. we know for a fact that in chemistry that a system will react against change
2. solar & co2 (if its real) are Not the only factors – such as:
ignoring the byproducts totally
e.g. c02
the running of motor engines does produce heat
(even if it’s a small amount)
- with millions of cars’ combustion motors on – it could potentially increase the global temp lol
3. (non-scientific) ‘late at night after a hot day it’s still warm’
He has nothing to sell, unlike Gore. He’s objective and steady, and isn’t speaking as if he’s in front of a 5 year old.
Unfortunately, he’s only convincing to folks who value fact over feeling.
more convincing than gore.
I just need a few definitions for some words “TheRealArchAngel” uses:
asorb
hjeated
glsas
gubllible
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I don’t know these words. Have you been to school? I can’t understand any of your sentences.
I agree with this lecture video. I can’t tell if you do or not.
**Danish Scientist Henrik Svensmark**
And like most specialist, most can’t see beyond the scope of their expertise so while it is true that the distance from the sun and the electromagnetic field weakening and letting more solar radiation in both can cause a warmer surface and thus the wacky weather it can’t explain the extreeme coldness now,can it?
this is from axis shift,a 2000 mile one southward from the core disteurbances…not the 27,000 year normal wobble axis shift thus colder winters
*He think it is all due to the sun*
Besides being closer to the sun rarely ever being discuseed, our planet’s main defence against the”solarwind” that would fry us with 2500f to 7500F tempatures,the Earths Magnetic fielod, is rarely discuseed
It is weakening from core disurbances, the same one that is causing the increasing earthquakes and deep sea volcanic erruptions.
As a result more solar radiation is getting in thus a warmer surface in places like the Suth Atlantic as the field collapses
**Danish Scientist Henrik Svensmark has a different theory on Global Warming. He does not think that CO2 is the main cause of Global Warming. He think it is all due to the sun**
Well, I think you got Spammed from stating the Obvious…lol
Actaully while it’s true the Sun fluuxes to maximus and minimus there is another effect not often discussed from such activities..Gravity fluxes
As a result the earths orbit isn’t stable and we get closer and farther from the sun.
we are now closer
Danish Scientist Henrik Svensmark has a different theory on Global Warming. He does not think that CO2 is the main cause of Global Warming. He think it is all due to the sun.